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Chucara · Mar 29, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

A friend and I have both picked up GW, and are looking to get started soon. But which two classes would you recommend for us, considering the following:

- We want to be able to play just the two of us.
- We want to be able to join a larger party, preferably without looking too long.*

* Previous experiences with MMORPGs tell me that healing classes are more sought after. Is this also the case with GW?

Lord Of Blame · Mar 29, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

1. Monk
2. Necro
3. Ele
4. Warrior
5. Ranger
6. Mesmer

This is the order I would choose. 2 monks are great especially when you have all the campaigns, but any combo can be useful.

Chucara · Mar 29, 2009, 09:43 PM // 21:43

We both have all campaigns, but we do not both need to be the same class.

We each create a character that will follow eachother in level. Question is, which pair of classes are the best suited for both a party of two and a party of more?

talisk3 · Mar 29, 2009, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Anyone but Mesmer,

TalanRoarer · Mar 29, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

If you have NF I would suggest Warrior and Paragon.
Im pretty sure you can do anything in the game with a Warrior, Paragon and 6 heroes.

Raven Wing · Mar 29, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56

If you want to play through the storyline you will soon discover that 2 people alone cant get far. The majority of missions are designed for teams of 8. There are not so many places where random people join together, in most places it will be the 2 of you and then the npc's for hire, henchmen, or heroes. You can pick heroes and henchmen of any classes to make up for what you don't have. So you can actually pick any class you like, but I recommand one of you being a monk, to control the healing. Henchmen can be stupid and don't heal who you wish, heroes can be made to heal desired person, but its tedious to micromanage them.
You didn't say what part of guildwars you got, or if its the complete game. If you only have Prophecies or Factions you won't have access to heroes, so you can disregard that part.
Good luck playing

edit: Oops I was disrupted while typing and meanwhile you posted.
With having complete Guildwars I would recommend either starting in Nightfall to get heroes or cross over to it soon and get them. 2 people with heroes can play through 95% of the game, only exception is elite areas like Domain of Anguish, The Deep and such. I would not recommend paragon and warrior , IMO the best option is having a melee like warrior or dervish and then a caster like monk, necro, elementalist etc. It will show you different aspects of the game trying out both types.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 29, 2009, 09:57 PM // 21:57

i would suggest a warrior and monk or para and monk pair. whoever play's the monk should be decent at being able to heal. at least better than what a hero is >_<. then the warrior and para both have excellent builds that power save yourselves which is invaluable when it comes to defense. also whoever plays the para or war will be able to coordinate the henchmen using call targeting. the warrior SY build is more offensive while the para SY build (a.k.a imbagon) provides even more defense. both are reasonably interchangeable so it just depends on ur prefered playstyle. i find the warrior hack and slash to be a bit more fun ;-)

or use a war and para like ben said =D between the defense u both will be providing, healer hero's will be fine. =) it would also prolly be more fun for the both of u and u can still reasonably split apart if u choose to in the future ;-)

Lord Of Blame · Mar 29, 2009, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chucara

We both have all campaigns, but we do not both need to be the same class.

We each create a character that will follow eachother in level. Question is, which pair of classes are the best suited for both a party of two and a party of more?

Unless you do not want to be the same class then dual monks is the best way to go. Weather you go together or with others, monks are almost always needed. The current 600/smite owns almost everywhere in PVE, you can pretty much do anything with only two people. If you want to get in a group then you can go as a healer or protector/bonder monk, a must have for a balanced build. Any if you like killing things the a team consisting of [ray of judgment] monks are great. So unless you are opposed to going as dual monks it is by far the best way to go IMO.

If you don't want to be the same profession then IMO I would make a monk and necro, a monk and ele, or an ele and necro. I think those professions go together very well, but once again any professions can work well together as long as your builds compliment each other.

Me an my friend usually run as an ele (me) and warrior (him) in HM. Our builds work great together. We have managed to do just about everything in the game with those two characters. So as you can see, with the correct set up you can run any two professions you want.

dylyn · Mar 29, 2009, 10:02 PM // 22:02

I had a lot of fun learning with a warrior/necro. I didn't have much luck with warrior as a secondary class for a caster (ele|mesmer|necro); they tend to get wiped fairly easily if you try to melee. I've seen a lot of beginners using W/Mo, W/E, and R/N. Any combination of those should work well.

crazybanshee · Mar 29, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50

If you both want to continue to play together, then both should play as monks. Otherwise, at some point in the game groups will want the monk to go with them but not the other person. Ele and necro would be my next suggestions.

Raven Wing · Mar 29, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22

You can always start having 1 of you as monk and 1 as something else, then go to lvl20 and as long as you wish.Then make a new set of chars where you change roles so you both have a monk and a other char. It goves more options, also for if you want to join high end teams in the future.

poasiods · Mar 29, 2009, 11:24 PM // 23:24

First of all, like many people already wrote, you will start with parties of 4 (Except in the starter areas of pre-searing), then 6, then 8. You just have choose two classes that will fit in nicely for majority of combo.

One of you should definitely be a monk since that spot will always be needed everywhere you go. Some of the classes that you might want to avoid are...
Mesmers - Although useful, people are reluctant to take Mesmers in PvE.
Assassins - Useful but hated in PvE.
Ritualists - Contrary to what everyone and their mothers might say, Ritualists can be useful. Again, many people hate on Ritualists.
Dervish - might have some trouble in enchantment-hostile areas.

Warriors, necros, elementalists, rangers, and paragons should work pretty well. Paragons are reputed for having one of the most useful but also incredibly boring combos, so beware.

So, warriors, necros, elementalists, and rangers are some of your fail-proof options to combine with monk.

Warriors are... well, you know, warriors.
Necro's are probably the most versatile PvE spell-casters.
Elementalists can decimate PvE with nuking and such. Their role changes to more of support way later in the game. (Hardmode)
Rangers are probably the most versatile non-spell casters. With bow, they can spread conds, interrupt, and do area of effect damage (similar to nuking). You can also give rangers scythes (dervish weapon) or daggers (assassin weapon) for melee combat and still do well.

Above four classes should work equally well but it might be a good idea to make a warrior so you wouldn't need to put up with having a random dumbass warrior in your party. You can get by with retarded elementalists, necromancers, or rangers in your party, but when your frontline (your warrior) starts sprinting way into hostile territory, that might cause some headache.

The Air Revenger · Mar 29, 2009, 11:30 PM // 23:30

i would say both go monk and run a 600/smite if you want to be pretty much invincible.

NotJustAnothaNinja · Mar 29, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37

While since you own all campaigns i would suggest One of them being a Paragon, because you can be an imbagon and you will soon learn what that is. Also the other person can be whatever, i would reccommend a necro as the are hella fun and pwnage. And with the two of you, you can complete anything with heroes.

iVendetta · Mar 30, 2009, 12:36 AM // 00:36

I would recommend you start as a Monk or a Necromancer.

AidinSwiftarrow · Mar 30, 2009, 01:26 AM // 01:26

necro and monk
warrior and monk
para and monk
ranger and monk :P

Stealth Bomberman · Mar 30, 2009, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by poasiods

Some of the classes that you might want to avoid are...
Mesmers - Although useful, people are reluctant to take Mesmers in PvE.
Assassins - Useful but hated in PvE.
Ritualists - Contrary to what everyone and their mothers might say, Ritualists can be useful. Again, many people hate on Ritualists.
Dervish - might have some trouble in enchantment-hostile areas.

funny thing is, these guys are the most dominating in PvE.

Chucara · Mar 30, 2009, 08:22 AM // 08:22

Ahh.. I had no idea about the heroes..

I just figured we'd start at the first chapter and work our way onwards. Is that really a bad idea?

I've already rolled a monk, and I'm thinking about going with elementalist as second profession. I'll see what my friend decides on.

Generally speaking, we don't need the ??ber builds. Just two builds that are fun to play and easy to find/join parties with. This is again based on assumptions from previous MMORPGs like Everquest 2.

chocodiledundee · Mar 30, 2009, 09:00 AM // 09:00

TBH I just found the class combination that worked for Me. thats what makes it fun. if you try running with classes you dont get on with then it begins to feel arduous.

Try a few out and see for yourself how they work. once you factor in heros you can run almost anything.

I suggest starting on Prophecies as it has a nice steady build up and you dont get dropped in it too fast as with other campaigns.

*Darcy* · Mar 30, 2009, 09:38 AM // 09:38

If you try a profession and decide you don't like it, just delete and create a new character. There is no penalty for changing your mind. There is also no uber profession in Guild Wars. Each one has its strengths and weaknesses.

All the campaigns on the same account will give you 8 characters slots, so you will have the ability to play more than one profession at a time. You can switch characters whenever you get bored or want a different experience.

Whichever character you decide to play, make sure you visit the Campfire section and read the stickied basic how-to-play thread in the appropriate subforum.

Mar 29, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48	#1
Chucara Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2009	Which two classes? A friend and I have both picked up GW, and are looking to get started soon. But which two classes would you recommend for us, considering the following: - We want to be able to play just the two of us. - We want to be able to join a larger party, preferably without looking too long.* * Previous experiences with MMORPGs tell me that healing classes are more sought after. Is this also the case with GW?

Mar 29, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56	#6
Raven Wing Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: N/	If you want to play through the storyline you will soon discover that 2 people alone cant get far. The majority of missions are designed for teams of 8. There are not so many places where random people join together, in most places it will be the 2 of you and then the npc's for hire, henchmen, or heroes. You can pick heroes and henchmen of any classes to make up for what you don't have. So you can actually pick any class you like, but I recommand one of you being a monk, to control the healing. Henchmen can be stupid and don't heal who you wish, heroes can be made to heal desired person, but its tedious to micromanage them. You didn't say what part of guildwars you got, or if its the complete game. If you only have Prophecies or Factions you won't have access to heroes, so you can disregard that part. Good luck playing edit: Oops I was disrupted while typing and meanwhile you posted. With having complete Guildwars I would recommend either starting in Nightfall to get heroes or cross over to it soon and get them. 2 people with heroes can play through 95% of the game, only exception is elite areas like Domain of Anguish, The Deep and such. I would not recommend paragon and warrior , IMO the best option is having a melee like warrior or dervish and then a caster like monk, necro, elementalist etc. It will show you different aspects of the game trying out both types. Last edited by Raven Wing; Mar 29, 2009 at 10:01 PM // 22:01..

Mar 30, 2009, 09:38 AM // 09:38	#20
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	If you try a profession and decide you don't like it, just delete and create a new character. There is no penalty for changing your mind. There is also no uber profession in Guild Wars. Each one has its strengths and weaknesses. All the campaigns on the same account will give you 8 characters slots, so you will have the ability to play more than one profession at a time. You can switch characters whenever you get bored or want a different experience. Whichever character you decide to play, make sure you visit the Campfire section and read the stickied basic how-to-play thread in the appropriate subforum. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Mar 29, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#2
Lord Of Blame Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Guild: Marked Souls [MkS] Profession: E/N	1. Monk 2. Necro 3. Ele 4. Warrior 5. Ranger 6. Mesmer This is the order I would choose. 2 monks are great especially when you have all the campaigns, but any combo can be useful.

Mar 29, 2009, 09:43 PM // 21:43	#3
Chucara Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2009	We both have all campaigns, but we do not both need to be the same class. We each create a character that will follow eachother in level. Question is, which pair of classes are the best suited for both a party of two and a party of more?

Mar 29, 2009, 09:43 PM // 21:43	#4
talisk3 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: [YUM] Profession: R/	Anyone but Mesmer,

Mar 29, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53	#5
TalanRoarer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester, England Guild: Gil Worz Is Srs [Bsns] Profession: N/A	If you have NF I would suggest Warrior and Paragon. Im pretty sure you can do anything in the game with a Warrior, Paragon and 6 heroes.

Mar 29, 2009, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#7
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	i would suggest a warrior and monk or para and monk pair. whoever play's the monk should be decent at being able to heal. at least better than what a hero is >_<. then the warrior and para both have excellent builds that power save yourselves which is invaluable when it comes to defense. also whoever plays the para or war will be able to coordinate the henchmen using call targeting. the warrior SY build is more offensive while the para SY build (a.k.a imbagon) provides even more defense. both are reasonably interchangeable so it just depends on ur prefered playstyle. i find the warrior hack and slash to be a bit more fun ;-) or use a war and para like ben said =D between the defense u both will be providing, healer hero's will be fine. =) it would also prolly be more fun for the both of u and u can still reasonably split apart if u choose to in the future ;-)

Mar 29, 2009, 10:02 PM // 22:02	#9
dylyn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: western Massachusetts, USA Guild: Oscen Ex Merito [wAw] Profession: W/D	I had a lot of fun learning with a warrior/necro. I didn't have much luck with warrior as a secondary class for a caster (ele\|mesmer\|necro); they tend to get wiped fairly easily if you try to melee. I've seen a lot of beginners using W/Mo, W/E, and R/N. Any combination of those should work well.

Mar 29, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50	#10
crazybanshee Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Look out! Profession: E/	If you both want to continue to play together, then both should play as monks. Otherwise, at some point in the game groups will want the monk to go with them but not the other person. Ele and necro would be my next suggestions.

Mar 29, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#11
Raven Wing Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI] Profession: N/	You can always start having 1 of you as monk and 1 as something else, then go to lvl20 and as long as you wish.Then make a new set of chars where you change roles so you both have a monk and a other char. It goves more options, also for if you want to join high end teams in the future.

Mar 29, 2009, 11:24 PM // 23:24	#12
poasiods Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: R/	First of all, like many people already wrote, you will start with parties of 4 (Except in the starter areas of pre-searing), then 6, then 8. You just have choose two classes that will fit in nicely for majority of combo. One of you should definitely be a monk since that spot will always be needed everywhere you go. Some of the classes that you might want to avoid are... Mesmers - Although useful, people are reluctant to take Mesmers in PvE. Assassins - Useful but hated in PvE. Ritualists - Contrary to what everyone and their mothers might say, Ritualists can be useful. Again, many people hate on Ritualists. Dervish - might have some trouble in enchantment-hostile areas. Warriors, necros, elementalists, rangers, and paragons should work pretty well. Paragons are reputed for having one of the most useful but also incredibly boring combos, so beware. So, warriors, necros, elementalists, and rangers are some of your fail-proof options to combine with monk. Warriors are... well, you know, warriors. Necro's are probably the most versatile PvE spell-casters. Elementalists can decimate PvE with nuking and such. Their role changes to more of support way later in the game. (Hardmode) Rangers are probably the most versatile non-spell casters. With bow, they can spread conds, interrupt, and do area of effect damage (similar to nuking). You can also give rangers scythes (dervish weapon) or daggers (assassin weapon) for melee combat and still do well. Above four classes should work equally well but it might be a good idea to make a warrior so you wouldn't need to put up with having a random dumbass warrior in your party. You can get by with retarded elementalists, necromancers, or rangers in your party, but when your frontline (your warrior) starts sprinting way into hostile territory, that might cause some headache.

Mar 29, 2009, 11:30 PM // 23:30	#13
The Air Revenger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: Looking For TA Guild! Profession: W/	i would say both go monk and run a 600/smite if you want to be pretty much invincible.

Mar 29, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37	#14
NotJustAnothaNinja Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2009 Guild: N/A Profession: E/	While since you own all campaigns i would suggest One of them being a Paragon, because you can be an imbagon and you will soon learn what that is. Also the other person can be whatever, i would reccommend a necro as the are hella fun and pwnage. And with the two of you, you can complete anything with heroes.

Mar 30, 2009, 12:36 AM // 00:36	#15
iVendetta Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Where no man has ever gone before. Guild: Syndicate Nightmare [SyN]	I would recommend you start as a Monk or a Necromancer.

Mar 30, 2009, 01:26 AM // 01:26	#16
AidinSwiftarrow Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lion's Arch Profession: R/Mo	necro and monk warrior and monk para and monk ranger and monk :P

Mar 30, 2009, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#18
Chucara Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2009	Ahh.. I had no idea about the heroes.. I just figured we'd start at the first chapter and work our way onwards. Is that really a bad idea? I've already rolled a monk, and I'm thinking about going with elementalist as second profession. I'll see what my friend decides on. Generally speaking, we don't need the ??ber builds. Just two builds that are fun to play and easy to find/join parties with. This is again based on assumptions from previous MMORPGs like Everquest 2.

Mar 30, 2009, 09:00 AM // 09:00	#19
chocodiledundee Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: England Guild: Dragon Lords of Order [lord] Profession: W/Mo	TBH I just found the class combination that worked for Me. thats what makes it fun. if you try running with classes you dont get on with then it begins to feel arduous. Try a few out and see for yourself how they work. once you factor in heros you can run almost anything. I suggest starting on Prophecies as it has a nice steady build up and you dont get dropped in it too fast as with other campaigns.